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  Women in JW Ministry

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  women make up the main population of the kingdom halls, and the pool of young males willing to step up to "serve" is drying up.

  what is the likelihood of "new light" on jw women in ministry roles formerly held only by males?.

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  stan livedeath

  what!! next thing it will be the brothers cleaning the toilets.
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  BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.

  then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..

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  stan livedeath

  the number of ex bethel boys on here never fails to surprise me.
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  stan livedeath

  TS NOT TOO LATE STAN.

  what i meant was--its too late--by many years--to try to build bridges with my family. Its their choice--not mine. But if i thought that me attending the occasional talk could smooth the way for them--i would give it a try.

  Ive no interest in any religion--and the whole idea of life after death--or armageddon--is just laughable nonsense. Just stuff to encourage soldiers into battle.

  I spent several years in the 70's attending some meetings to appease the wife. I hated every minute of it--i had already resigned to the elders. I was never d/f'd.
  
  
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  stan livedeath

  problem for me is i'm not agnostic--i'm atheist. To me its a case of " in the beginning man made god"

  But i would consider jwlite--it it meant by attending occasionally my son and daughter might speak to me. But realistically its far too late for that.
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  Need Vocal Renditions of Sing Praises to Jehovah

  by cybernyben101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am looking for vocal renditions of some the kingdom songs in this old songbook: sing praises to jehovah.

  most of my favorite kingdom songs are from that songbook and i would love to download them on my phone.

  i enjoy listening to vocal renditions of kingdom melodies.

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  stan livedeath

  jeeesus.
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  stan livedeath

  this jw lite thing is nothing new. When i was in it--in the 60s--the majority of men attending did so to appease their rabid lunatic jesus freak wives. These guys just sat through meetings--never commenting--just asleep with their eyelids open. Never went out on field service--just never got involved. Nice enough to chat to--about anything except the religion. Many smoked.

  Then there were the nisan kids--seen just once a year to get their membership card renewed.
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  Pornography in the Marriage

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".

  how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.

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  stan livedeath

  back in the day my first wife--a 3rd gen born in--was totally ruled by the watchtower--provided it suited her. I remember saying i wanted to go and see the film (=movie ) "the stud". with Joan Collins. She was not having that--and forbade me to go on my own. Somehow that marriage lasted 13 years.
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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  stan livedeath

  i'm sure the world is flat--so i wont go to near the edge in case i fall off. But i also have faith that an angel would catch me if i do.
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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  stan livedeath

  ex bethelite etc

  you keep mentioning HOPE: hope in/of what exactly? are you afraid of the future ?
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  Symposium Talk : Watchtower Society show their appreciation for the Buettell's

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/xcgyp-h60xk?si=tvojbxouldf9jxwp.

  governing body member samuel herd gives a symposium talk: love for jehovah in modern times at the 2023 annual meeting of jehovah's witnesses.

  at the 11 minute mark of the symposium, we meet (100 year old) brother david buettell and his ( 98 year old wife) phylis.

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  stan livedeath

  this "symposium" thing

  here in the UK nobody i knew had any idea what it meant--so it became the thing for the public talk to be divided up between several speakers.

  I'm sure the other UK members here will have heard this old one from back then---speaker #3 had fallen asleep when his turn came--so wife gives him an elbow in his ribs--he jerks awake--jumps up and delivers a closing prayer.